我感觉的荷兰教育与种族歧视的关系

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Hi....so what shall i call u? Mr. Smiling Donkey or Mr. Fucked up?  :D
Anyway, maybe Robert is better???

Just wanna help to draw ur attention, that, the dutchie are NOT american, NOT BRITISH, NOT AUSTRILIAN (though english is well spoken in thsi country and surpose to be the best in Europe even), but again! THEY ARE NOT THE NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKERs SIR!! U GET IT??

So dont expect a normal dutch teacher (well...even univesity teachers) will explain everything so much in detail in engels(english) like a real native speak does, they cant!! it's impossible! they are not teaching u the language, aret they?? and on the other hand, even they do, i dont see 100% u guys would understand it even ur IELTS marks are up to 9!

so try to be fair k? i like what u said a lot, but not ALL  ;)

My husband is dutch, i dont speak dutch, we have to speak engels to communicate to each other everyday, he speaks very good english, but still and again, there's not everything we can share and understand in life between he and me, but it doesnt really bother us.  ;)  
i'm from 祖国大陆, 我不上学, 但很喜欢你们的论坛, 所以说了几句. 大家共同讨论吧.

U GUYS AHVE A NICE DAY!
TINA

b4 upstairs

说得好！

荷兰人中很多都是很好的人啊。买东西说英文他们不高兴？ 我倒没碰见过，我只碰见过特友善的店员。甚至还用英文和我开玩笑。

想请问一下，荷兰是不是有写HOGESCHOOL可以让中国的大专生（有工作经验）去读MBA，中介和我说十月份有阿勒姆-纳梅亨大学的教授来中国面试，当场录取学生，但我始终持怀疑态度，那所是国立大学，会不会是与其联合办学或其下属的business school之类打这它的幌子招生啊，你们可以给我点意见吗，先谢谢！

先在留学第一站上看到了，第一个反应就是你写的。观点虽然有点偏激，但还可以说是精华。帮哥们顶了！

I don't think I met such problem in holland.  The  master programme i am currently takin is quite carefually prepared. Also I am in a group that most students are dutch. Professors speak real good english.  Maybe it's different between hogeschool and university? I have no idea about Hogeschool but dutch education is not that bad by my experience.

如果你进了universiteit的话，可能情况会有所不同吧

看到大家讨论这么激烈
我想再说几句

第一,关于硕士合班上课的事,至少在吞特是全部用英文的,哪怕只有一个国际学生,今年是哪怕没有国际学生还是必须用英文.考试是英文和荷兰文的试卷选择一个的.大家为什么不理解HOGESCHOOL都是用荷兰语教学的吗?首先HOGESCHOOL的学生本来成绩就不好(如果好,干嘛HOGESCHOOL啊?!)英文水平有限,让他们也用英文上课,不是难为人家嘛?!

第二,一个国家什么人没有啊?!有的人喜欢中国人,有的不喜欢,这太正常不过拉
我们中国人还不是喜欢白人,怕黑人嘛?!那人家黑人,就是皮肤黑点，他有什么错啊?!
说到店员服务态度不好,如果他的服务态度不好,你就别理他,买完东西就走好了,如果是服务态度恶劣,你可以去投诉啊!

第三,HOGESCHOOL骗钱的说法,我觉得大多数HOGESCHOOL都还是质量较高的.但是哪个国家没有野鸡大学呢?楼主敢说中国没有,美国没有吗?那些骗钱的学校哪里都有,这些不是荷兰的错!

什么种族歧视?我觉得这是哪里都有的,哪怕在中国上海人看其他人不都是乡下人嘛?!北京人看其他人不都是下等人嘛?!所以,在荷兰心态放宽点才是最关键的,读好书,拿到学位是我们的目的,不是?!那我们就把这个目的进行到底.

PS:如果言辞过于激烈请大家原谅!!
ROBERTSONG,
要是觉得学校不好,就申请咱吞特吧!
我在这等着你来找我玩呢~~~~