作为一个过来人，给将要去荷兰读书的朋友们一些鼓励

挺一挺lz，我已经来荷兰10年啦！还是头一回看到怎么中肯的文章。

原帖由 Allan_hxl 于 2009-9-27 07:46 发表
算算好久，没上过GOGODUTCH了，连老帐号密码都忘了，只能又新注册了一个。今天偶尔上来，看到大家提起的一些以前是那么熟悉的地点和名词，回想起以前在荷兰生活学习的点点滴滴，真是感慨万千。作为一个过来人，发个贴子，算是给将要 ...

I do not want to say your thread is ridiculous, but I do not think it is very close to the truth I know.

fresh bachelor graduate 100k salary in 2005?............500k first year ....  you know how much DELL sales director (Great China area) earn? it seems he earns less than your classmate.

I do not want to make more comment, ask people around you how much they earn in 2005.  judge yourself

there is noticable difference between U and H,  I do not want to discuss it anymore.

deny or accept it, the gap is there.  

For your information, In continent Europe there is no master/bachelor system before,  they only have 4-6 years higher education diploma which is comparable to the master degree in the british/US education system.

so in most people opinion, only if you have a master degree, you are considered as a real graudate.  That's why youou can not see many university graduates only with a bachelor degree in the continent Europe.

the place where people with bachelor and master degree are treated indifferently is US.  Master (exclude MBA) is not very popular there.

[ 本帖最后由 flyheart 于 2009-10-14 15:30 编辑 ]

原帖由 Allan_hxl 于 2009-9-27 07:46 发表
算算好久，没上过GOGODUTCH了，连老帐号密码都忘了，只能又新注册了一个。今天偶尔上来，看到大家提起的一些以前是那么熟悉的地点和名词，回想起以前在荷兰生活学习的点点滴滴，真是感慨万千。作为一个过来人，发个贴子，算是给将要 ...

顶拉

[ 本帖最后由 yingwang839 于 2009-11-13 23:04 编辑 ]

看了这个贴差点儿哭出来。
好贴好贴。

世界需要这样的帖子

[ 本帖最后由 二手科学家 于 2009-10-14 21:50 编辑 ]

原帖由 flyheart 于 2009-10-14 13:24 发表


I do not want to say your thread is ridiculous, but I do not think it is very close to the truth I know.

fresh bachelor graduate 100k salary in 2005?............500k first year ....  you know how m ...

呵呵。我不知道DELL的SALES DIRECTOR赚多少。如果真的连500K都没有的话，这能说DELL的待遇实在不怎么样。在上海一个大公司SENIOR ENGINEER都要300K朝上。建议看看一本比较流行的网络小说《杜拉拉升职记》，很真实的。第一年500K，的确是个奇迹。我也不知道他们公司怎么算的工资，但是，我听说，我同学，第一年就把房贷换了，车也买了。呵呵。如果有HZ的同学，可能知道我在说谁。

  我只是想增加一点人生的经验

好帖。

楼主写的很好，但现在经济不如以前，海归也越来越多，恐怕不如几年前回国那么多机会了。《杜拉拉升职记》说的是70后，小说总有夸大的成分，现在能毕业后找到份称心如意的工作，如主角般平步青云的人少之又少。当然留学更多是一种经历和财富，不能单从毕业后的工资来衡量得失。

[ 本帖最后由 翩翩在风车村 于 2010-4-16 21:47 编辑 ]

情况 因人而异。但是楼主说的有一些道理