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linhehuang  初上贼船  2009-6-8 21:21:33 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 荷兰

本意是想给想留下的朋友打气

感谢大家积极的评论。请大家注意,我只是想给想要留下的朋友提高士气。
但是完全没有说荷兰就是唯一的出路, 或者不能留下就不是好汉。
我很赞同网友的观点“认清形式, 提升自身”才是关键。
如果因为我的措辞不慎, 给大家带来误解和困扰, 我在这里向大家道歉。请查看我原文的最后一段:

所以简而言之, 有文凭想留下的同学记住啦, 别忙跟风, 降自己士气。大家好好努力,互相帮助, 广泛传播招聘信息。实在不行的, 在zoek jaar好好学习荷兰文, 多个荷兰文文凭,也算是有个一技之长, 搞不好哪天就用上了。反正政策时时在变, 但到目前为止, 我个人的感觉就是:只要你行, 荷兰就是哭着喊着想留你!因为荷兰缺的就是人(才)。
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carrie  海贼王  2009-6-17 11:34:41 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 荷兰
原帖由 kongk 于 2009-6-8 02:22 发表
对绝大多数人来说, 留在荷兰是谈不上有事业发展的,也就是个工作。

生活上,不用说了。


我觉得你说的非常非常的对!!!!
白開水  中级海盗  2009-6-17 11:55:39 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 荷兰
原帖由 kongk 于 2009-6-8 02:22 发表
对绝大多数人来说, 留在荷兰是谈不上有事业发展的,也就是个工作。

生活上,不用说了。


一针见血
vickistorm  中级海盗  2009-6-17 12:06:14 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 荷兰
原帖由 kongk 于 2009-6-8 02:22 发表
对绝大多数人来说, 留在荷兰是谈不上有事业发展的,也就是个工作。

生活上,不用说了。

可以作为起飞的平台,但是想飞的高还需要回国发展才行。适合起步。在荷兰先进企业当中工作几年还是有好处的
hehehehe  海贼王  2009-6-17 12:22:26 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 荷兰
原帖由 kongk 于 2009-6-8 02:22 发表
对绝大多数人来说, 留在荷兰是谈不上有事业发展的,也就是个工作。

生活上,不用说了。

这个不一定吧,看我的同学们多数对工作还是很满意的,干得也比较出色,当然累是不在话下,但是得到了同行的承认,累得也值得,几年前的学长们坐到SENIOR的职位的也不在少数, 生活嘛,就IND的最低标准(36-37,000)开始,几年后也能到中产阶级水平吧。事业发展,那要看你自己的目标了,如果是认定只有“管理者”或者“决策者”才算是有成就的话,那有点难度, 我还没有那样远大志向,只想先多学点东西,呵呵
gordon123  高级海盗  2009-6-17 12:26:22 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国天津
在荷兰工作,想升职还是比较困难的,他们会让中国人做头头吗??
同一片天  见习海盗  2009-6-17 13:07:01 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 荷兰
原帖由 flyheart 于 2009-6-8 18:49 发表


your intention is good. (the title does not make any sense though)

This kind of threads has just deviated from the reality.  Why do you need to panic if you can not find a job here? Most students c ...


The third eye viewpoints from me.

I think the intention from Linhehuang is good as well the title, it leaves us a great imaginable picture, think of it, it is beautiful.

But indeed, the conclusions from Mr. Huang against the immigaration policy might be a little far away from the reality. Please allow me as a non-expert to write something here. Put whether we are talent or not away, let us focus some staff...

Before starting a job-hunting, it might be considerable for those questions, which are likely  that "What do you think about Dutch culture?" "Can you change yourself or adapt it quickly?"  Please bear in mind that, we are not only choosing a company, but  also choosing how to tackle a more different culture and life, compared what we had learned in the universities, from friends, from TV/Radio, such media here. Do not throw the "shit" that we were already veteran, how long I already worked in China, etc.. trust it, every day is a new day in the Netherlands for us, whether you are a student, whether you are a company-owner or whether you are a white/blue-collar in the office or in the warehouse, or restaurant. We are in the "new" world, never forget!

If you can independently know how to tackle the unexpectable frustration, the lonely feeling, the failure, the company's game-poilcy, then please give a try for a job, and there are tons of books and ideas you can find from book-stores, internet for the concern --- how to get a job.

One tip for those freinds who are choosing new life here, most Dutch people likes Asian, the reason is simple, they know most Asian people can work very very very and really hard, quite smart also, but clearly the unsolved question still in their mind needs you, you and us to solve "Are you really ready for it?!"

All the best

Joe
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天外流星  中级海盗  2009-6-17 17:37:54 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 荷兰
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