这里做trader的多吗？

各个组也不一样的，很难一概而论。如上面有人说，phd主要作quant,在我们组确实是这样。20%的quant支持80%的trader,但quant的角色不一样，有的地方quant就是给trader打杂的，看trader脸色。我们那里boss是一直负责quant，其他人轮转，据说这样可以保持science knowledge不落伍，最重要的trading strategy都是quant设计。所以做trader的时候market close就可以下班了，作quant的时候要辛苦很多，每天12个小时左右，6天，跟着头研究数学。

Post by melua;3372573
同意楼上说的, 分享经验比较受欢迎

既然lz在几个国家做过trader，我想问问lz，和在英国比起来，在荷兰做trader工作强度如何？每周工作时间大概是多少小时呢？

IMO 还是很不容易的

Post by mojave3;3372644
奥赛金牌又如何，诺贝尔奖也没用阿

hum, after all, you are more on the trader side or on the quant side? may we know?

Post by IBtraderEU;3372365
It's true that anyone can be trader as long as you can grab money from others' pocket. However, there are too many candidates who want to join this dirty but high-paid job.  As I said, supply and demand works as an invisible hand in the competitive market. Our boss requires the traders in his department not only to rob money from other people, but also need to talk about science. So we hire PhD from math, physics, engineering and economics area.

I am just "borrowed" here to help my colleague improve our partner's performance. You know, after the big loss recently, sometime it's better to keep "low key" in the trading market for IB, and putting a small company in front of us might be a good solution.

72小时一周？这个....强度也恁大了吧
我没有接触过什么hard quant,不过一个星期超过60小时想算法，再强的人一年也就废掉了。反正我肯定是废掉了

Post by IBtraderEU;3372666
各个组也不一样的，很难一概而论。如上面有人说，phd主要作quant,在我们组确实是这样。20%的quant支持80%的trader,但quant的角色不一样，有的地方quant就是给trader打杂的，看trader脸色。我们那里boss是一直负责quant，其他人轮转，据说这样可以保持science knowledge不落伍，最重要的trading strategy都是quant设计。所以做trader的时候market close就可以下班了，作quant的时候要辛苦很多，每天12个小时左右，6天，跟着头研究数学。

Post by IBtraderEU;3372666
各个组也不一样的，很难一概而论。如上面有人说，phd主要作quant,在我们组确实是这样。20%的quant支持80%的trader,但quant的角色不一样，有的地方quant就是给trader打杂的，看trader脸色。我们那里boss是一直负责quant，其他人轮转，据说这样可以保持science knowledge不落伍，最重要的trading strategy都是quant设计。所以做trader的时候market close就可以下班了，作quant的时候要辛苦很多，每天12个小时左右，6天，跟着头研究数学。

荷兰的投行待遇没有英国的好，我以为会没那么辛苦呢。唉，原来都是差不多的

Post by ccfenix;3372691
72小时一周？这个....强度也恁大了吧
我没有接触过什么hard quant,不过一个星期超过60小时想算法，再强的人一年也就废掉了。反正我肯定是废掉了

所以很多人都是做几年赚点钱就转行的

as I said, we rotate between quant and trader roles. Our boss think this can keep people sensitive to the market as well as remembering complicated mathematics.

Post by ccfenix;3372682
hum, after all, you are more on the trader side or on the quant side? may we know?

I think PhD work more than this. Anyway, only doing quant role takes such a long time. When functioning as trader doesn't require this heavy work.

Post by ccfenix;3372691
72小时一周？这个....强度也恁大了吧
我没有接触过什么hard quant,不过一个星期超过60小时想算法，再强的人一年也就废掉了。反正我肯定是废掉了

wow! that's awesome
you must be a guru then, u also visit quant board of mitbbs?

Post by IBtraderEU;3372723
as I said, we rotate between quant and trader roles. Our boss think this can keep people sensitive to the market as well as remembering complicated mathematics.

话说回来了，建模的作用能有多大呢？人算不如天算。我觉得TRADER最重要是得反应快，心算能力强。