这里做trader的多吗？

Frankly speaking, if a phd is assigned to be a trader, that is a waste unless he likes it.

这简直是赤裸裸的BSO
要不给我们见识你一下您是哪个名校的PhD？

我们也好学习学习，提高一下自己的素质

Post by IBtraderEU;3371011
我们头是MIT PhD,所以招的人没有名校phd免谈。。。感觉这边front desk人员素质还是低了点

Post by Mahone;3372122
深深地同情这群人，有这样的profile，去别的行业更有前途，何必去做trader?

今年的形势确实是这样
都退一档次,FO去MO,MO去BO
其实对于读HBO的大家,能进IB的可能性真的很小,虽然NUMBERIAL和VERBAL可能你能过,但最后你发现在AC的都是一些全才...特别是如果你报STRUCTURE PRODUCTS的话

大家还是转4大这样的企业吧,IB好是好,但一样也累,如果你的志愿不是象火箭那样一飞冲天的话,找个大公司混混其实也很不错.

It's true that anyone can be trader as long as you can grab money from others' pocket. However, there are too many candidates who want to join this dirty but high-paid job.  As I said, supply and demand works as an invisible hand in the competitive market. Our boss requires the traders in his department not only to rob money from other people, but also need to talk about science. So we hire PhD from math, physics, engineering and economics area.

I am just "borrowed" here to help my colleague improve our partner's performance. You know, after the big loss recently, sometime it's better to keep "low key" in the trading market for IB, and putting a small company in front of us might be a good solution.

Post by ccfenix;3372191
I think LZ is talking about Quant, 学名矿工

to become a trader, u don't need to be a PhD, even master is not necessary.

Generally, Traders need street-smart, Quants need book smart.

Which IB are u working for? I think there are not a lot of IBs in Amsterdam. This is a small market.

Post by 因为爱才勇敢;3372260
今年的形势确实是这样
都退一档次,FO去MO,MO去BO
其实对于读HBO的大家,能进IB的可能性真的很小,虽然NUMBERIAL和VERBAL可能你能过,但最后你发现在AC的都是一些全才...特别是如果你报STRUCTURE PRODUCTS的话

大家还是转4大这样的企业吧,IB好是好,但一样也累,如果你的志愿不是象火箭那样一飞冲天的话,找个大公司混混其实也很不错.

that's not a very constructive advise. Big 4s need to speak local language. Besides, it really is not easy to get into big4s in UK.

I do not get any benefit for BSO here, just want to get familiar with a strange country. And I like "guang" Chinese bbs.

To be honest, mainly we have people from Ivy League universities, plus Cambirdge, ETHZ, TU Munich and some French ones I'm not familiar with. There is one guy recommended by his professor to come to interview, even don't know where is wall street, we only interview him math and computer science (not programming skills, but algorithms), still get hired.

Post by ccfenix;3372198
这简直是赤裸裸的BSO
要不给我们见识你一下您是哪个名校的PhD？

我们也好学习学习，提高一下自己的素质

Besides, I heard from my colleague in New York that one of the best Hedge fund D.E.Shaw only hire people with Olympic medals (math, physics..., not the one held in BEIJING)

Post by IBtraderEU;3372406
Besides, I heard from my colleague in New York that one of the best Hedge fund D.E.Shaw only hire people with Olympic medals (math, physics..., not the one held in BEIJING)

ok man, what do you want to say ? and what do you want to prove here?

the Dutch trading team sucks ? we can do nothing about it.

Your team is the best ? then we will read your story on bloomberg probably.

To get to know more peers? the community for Chinese working in the
financial industry is really small (for front office roles, it is even much smaller)......if you are working in any international IBs here, you stand better chance to meet them personally. So no need to posting threads here.

To let us know the extravagant life of traders from Wall-Street? I do not think it is really necessary, I would rather watch "Celebrity Kids"

If you can share some personal experience in trading (daily life/interview/inside information regarding the whole financial industry), I think it will be more useful.

同意楼上说的, 分享经验比较受欢迎

既然lz在几个国家做过trader，我想问问lz，和在英国比起来，在荷兰做trader工作强度如何？每周工作时间大概是多少小时呢？

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