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先说下大致情况,上周去希腊旅游,本来一切都非常顺利,但是最后一天坐船回来的时候,船晚点3个小时,导致后面的航班没法赶上,只能放弃登船,只能买了当天的当地航班到雅典,勉强赶上雅典的航班,才回到荷兰。为此多花了接近400多,当那船晚点3个小时到达港口的时候,我们就尝试去退票,但是他们的人说他们没权利给我们退,只能自己回来联系customer service,申请的退票或者赔偿事宜。

现在的情况是,我们的两张票没有登船,也没有检票,票还在手里。当时在港口和船上的人员和港口的警察一通解释说希望退票,最后得到一个希腊官方的港口警察的一个证明,证明上用希腊文写明船本该什么时间出发,但晚点了3个小时,然后警察的签名盖章。等于说有个官方证明,说船晚点。但没说什么原因。

今天尝试联系了customer service,得到回信,我把重点贴出来下,他们主要的说的重点就是说,晚点原因是由于有人报称船上有炸弹,出于安全原因,船才晚点3个小时,所以基于这个理由,不给我们退票。也不会退钱。

According to Passengers’ Rights Act (article 18, paragraph 5), no monetary compensation can be granted if a sailing is delayed on safety and security reasons, especially if vessels or human lives are in danger.

他们说的这个 Passengers’ Rights Act (article 18, paragraph 5),我不知道在哪儿,但我google了一下。EU 境内乘船的乘客权利,跟他们说的不太一样,

ights in the event of interrupted travel                                                        In the event of a cancellation or a delayed departure of a passenger service, passengers must be informed by the carrier of the situation as soon as possible and no later than 30 minutes after the scheduled time of departure. In this case, carriers must also inform passengers of the estimated departure time and estimated arrival time as soon as such information is available. Where the departure is cancelled or delayed for more than 90 minutes, passengers must be offered free of charge snacks, meals or refreshments in reasonable relation to the waiting time. Where an overnight stay is necessary, the carrier must offer, where possible, free of charge accommodation for the passengers. The carrier may limit the total cost of accommodation to EUR 80 per night per passenger, for a maximum of three nights.
                            When a departure is cancelled or delayed for more than 90 minutes, passengers must immediately be offered the choice between re-routing to the final destination at the earliest opportunity and at no additional cost or reimbursement of the ticket price and, where appropriate, a return service free of charge to the first point of departure.
                            Passengers may also request compensation, in addition to the transport, from the carrier in the event of a delay in arrival at the final destination. The minimum level of compensation is 25 % of the ticket price for a delay of at least:
                           
  • 1 hour in the case of a scheduled journey of up to 4 hours;
  • 2 hours in the case of a scheduled journey of between 4 and 8 hours;
  • 3 hours in the case of a scheduled journey of between 8 and 24 hours;
  • 6 hours in the case of a scheduled journey of more than 24 hours.
所以想请教下能人,有谁有律师朋友或者通晓欧盟境内关于乘客权利的,最好贴下或者贴个链接,让我有理有据跟他争论下,争取减少下损失。



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amy57j  ↗总版主↗  2013-7-2 20:20:40 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 荷兰
我也查了下。应该跟你看到的是一样的

Rights of passengers travelling by sea and inland waterway
This regulation establishes rules for the rights of passengers when travelling by sea and inland waterway transport. It covers non-discrimination between passengers regarding transport conditions offered by carriers, non-discrimination and assistance for disabled persons and persons with reduced mobility, rights of passengers in case of cancellation or delay, minimum information to be provided to passengers, the handling of complaints and general rules on enforcement.

ACT
Regulation (EU) No 1177/2010 of the European Parliament and of the Council of 24 November 2010 concerning the rights of passengers when travelling by sea and inland waterway.

SUMMARY
This regulation applies to passengers travelling on passenger services * either departing from or arriving in a port within the European Union (EU), and on cruises where the port of embarkation is in the EU. It does not apply to passengers travelling:
  • on ships certified to carry up to 12 passengers;
  • on ships which have a crew of less than three persons or where the distance of the service is less than 500 metres;
  • on excursion and sightseeing tours;
  • on ships not propelled by mechanical means and historical ships, certified to carry up to 36 passengers.
Rights of disabled persons and persons with reduced mobility
Carriers, travel agents and tour operators must not refuse to accept reservations, issue tickets or embark persons on the grounds of disability or of reduced mobility, and nor must tickets be offered at an additional cost. Reservations and tickets may, however, be refused to disabled persons or persons with reduced mobility in order to meet applicable safety requirements and where the design of the passenger ship or port infrastructure and equipment makes the safe embarkation, disembarkation or carriage of disabled persons impossible. In the case of such a refusal, carriers, travel agents and tour operators must make all reasonable efforts to find an alternative means of transport for the person concerned.
Rights in the event of interrupted travel
In the event of a cancellation or a delayed departure of a passenger service, passengers must be informed by the carrier of the situation as soon as possible and no later than 30 minutes after the scheduled time of departure. In this case, carriers must also inform passengers of the estimated departure time and estimated arrival time as soon as such information is available. Where the departure is cancelled or delayed for more than 90 minutes, passengers must be offered free of charge snacks, meals or refreshments in reasonable relation to the waiting time. Where an overnight stay is necessary, the carrier must offer, where possible, free of charge accommodation for the passengers. The carrier may limit the total cost of accommodation to EUR 80 per night per passenger, for a maximum of three nights.
When a departure is cancelled or delayed for more than 90 minutes, passengers must immediately be offered the choice between re-routing to the final destination at the earliest opportunity and at no additional cost or reimbursement of the ticket price and, where appropriate, a return service free of charge to the first point of departure.
Passengers may also request compensation, in addition to the transport, from the carrier in the event of a delay in arrival at the final destination. The minimum level of compensation is 25 % of the ticket price for a delay of at least:
  • 1 hour in the case of a scheduled journey of up to 4 hours;
  • 2 hours in the case of a scheduled journey of between 4 and 8 hours;
  • 3 hours in the case of a scheduled journey of between 8 and 24 hours;
  • 6 hours in the case of a scheduled journey of more than 24 hours.
If the delay exceeds double the time set out above, the compensation will increase to 50 % of the ticket price. The compensation will be paid, either in vouchers or in money at the request of the passenger, within 1 month of the request for compensation. This compensation must not be reduced by financial transaction costs such as fees, telephone costs or stamps.
Carriers are not required to provide passengers with an overnight stay and compensation where the cancellation or delay is caused by weather conditions endangering the safe operation of the ship.
Carriers and terminal operators must establish or have in place an accessible complaint-handling mechanism for the rights and obligations provided for in this regulation. A passenger must submit a complaint within 2 months from the date on which the transport service was undertaken or when the service should have been undertaken. Within 1 month of receiving the complaint, the carrier or terminal operator must notify the passenger that the complaint has been substantiated, rejected or is still being considered. The final response must be provided within 2 months of the receipt of the complaint.
Each EU country must establish an independent national body with the mandate to enforce the regulation and to impose penalties where appropriate.
This regulation is applicable from 18 December 2012.



amy57j  ↗总版主↗  2013-7-2 20:23:01 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 荷兰
看到这段话了么?
Carriers are not required to provide passengers with an overnight stay and compensation where the cancellation or delay is caused by weather conditions endangering the safe operation of the ship.

是有exception的。
amy57j  ↗总版主↗  2013-7-2 20:25:13 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 荷兰
我又继续查了

Regulation (EU) No. 1177/2010 concerning the rights of
passengers when travelling by sea and inland waterways
Guidance Note No 6
Chapter III - Obligations of carriers and terminal operators in
the event of interrupted travel
1. This guidance note is intended to provide general information on those
provisions within EU Regulation 1177/2010 (“the EU Regulation”) concerning the
rights of passengers when travelling by sea and inland waterway that relate to the
obligations of carriers (i.e. cruise and ferry service operators) and port terminal
operators in the event of interrupted travel.
Information in the event of cancelled or delayed departures
2. In the case of a cancellation or a delay in departure of a ferry or cruise
service, passengers departing from staffed terminals will be informed by the carrier,
or where appropriate, by the terminal operator, of the situation as soon as possible
and in any event no later than 30 minutes after the scheduled departure time, and of
the estimated departure time and estimated arrival time as soon as that information is
available.
3. If passengers miss a connecting transport service due to a cancellation or
delay, the carrier and, where appropriate, the terminal operator will make reasonable
effort to inform the passengers concerned of alternative connections. The carrier or
terminal operator will provide this information in accessible formats for all
passengers.
4. If it is possible, passengers due to board a ferry at an unstaffed slipway or
quay will similarly be informed of a cancellation or delay.
Assistance in the event of cancelled or delayed departures
5. At staffed terminals, where a carrier reasonably expects the departure of a
ferry sailing or cruise ship to be cancelled or delayed for more than 90 minutes
beyond its scheduled time of departure, passengers will be offered free of charge,
snacks, meals or refreshments in reasonable relation to the waiting time, provided
they are available or can reasonably be supplied.
6. The Department for Transport takes the view that it is reasonable to expect a
carrier to provide snacks, meals or refreshments where they are available or can
reasonably be supplied, or if the carrier so decides to an equivalent monetary sum,
as set out in the table below:
1 Waiting time Snacks, meals or refreshments
90 minutes or more and
every 90 minutes thereafter
light refreshment such as a bottle
of water or a cup of tea.
4 hours or more a snack or light meal such as a
sandwich or a bowl of soup.
8 hours or more a hot meal.
Every 4 hours thereafter as above; a snack or a meal
should be provided.
7. Please note that the examples in the table above are for illustrative purposes.
8. The availability of snacks, meals or refreshments may differ depending on a
number of factors, such as the facilities in the port terminal or onboard the ship, the
time of day and the proximity of the terminal to local amenities.
9. Where possible, when offering meals or refreshments, a carrier or terminal
operator should try and cater for passengers with declared special dietary needs.
10. The EU Regulation does not require snacks, meals or refreshments to be
provided to passengers with open tickets unless they have been checked-in or to
passengers who were advised of the delay or cancellation before purchasing a ticket.
However, passengers with season tickets or travel passes are entitled to this
provision1
.
11. In the case of a cancellation or a delay in departure where a stay of one or
more nights or a stay additional to that intended by the passenger becomes
necessary (because, for example, no alternative routes are available) a passenger at
a staffed terminal will, where and when physically possible, be offered free of charge
accommodation on board the ship, or ashore, and transport to and from the port
terminal and place of accommodation. However, no overnight accommodation costs
are payable where the cancellation or delay is caused by weather conditions
endangering the safe operation of the ship. The safety of the ship is ultimately a
matter for the Master and his word is final.
12. The carrier is under a duty to organise such overnight accommodation but
could invite passengers who wish to do so to make their own arrangements and offer
to reimburse expenses they incur. In either case, the carrier may limit
accommodation costs to €802
per night per passenger for a maximum of three nights.
Costs incurred by a passenger for overnight accommodation should either be paid by
the carrier directly to the accommodation provider or be refunded to the passenger
on submission of receipts.
13. The availability of accommodation will differ depending on a large number of
factors including the type of ship, the location of the port terminal, the proximity of the
1
Under Article 20(1)
2
The total cost of accommodation ashore should be paid in £ sterling using the applicable
exchange rate which can be located at www.xe.com
2 terminal to local facilities, the time of year, the length of the delay and the number of
passengers delayed.
14. Accommodation may be provided either ashore or on board the vessel. In
broad terms, it should enable the passenger to rest and to have easy access to toilet
and wash facilities. In a number of circumstances it may be appropriate for the
passenger to go home and return to the port terminal at a later time. In such
circumstances the carrier should pay any associated transport costs e.g. petrol.
15. There is no obligation on the carrier to offer snacks, meals, refreshments or
overnight accommodation at unstaffed slipways or quay – and, in practice, catering
and accommodation facilities at (or near) such locations are usually extremely
limited.
Re-routing and reimbursement in the event of cancelled or delayed departures
for ferry passengers
16. Where a carrier reasonably expects a ferry service to be cancelled or delayed
in departure from a port terminal for more than 90 minutes, the passenger should be
offered the choice between:
(a) re-routing to the final destination, under comparable conditions, as set out in the
transport contract, at the earliest opportunity and at no additional cost;
(b) refund of the ticket price and, where relevant, a return service free of charge to
the first point of departure, as set out in the transport contract, at the earliest
opportunity.
17. A passenger is not obliged to be re-routed or refunded if offered the
opportunity, but a passenger who declines an offer to be re-routed in accordance
with (a) above and chooses instead to wait at the terminal will be liable for any costs
they then incur.
18. Where a ferry service has been delayed for more than 90 minutes at an
unstaffed slipway, passengers are similarly entitled to be re-routed or refunded. In
practice, however, there may be no personnel from the carrier on site, so the
passenger will need to contact the carrier to arrange any such re-routing (if possible)
or to seek a refund.
19. A passenger is entitled to a refund based on the full cost of the ticket at the
price at which it was purchased, for the part or parts of the journey not made, and for
the part or parts already made where the journey no longer serves any purpose in
relation to the passenger’s original travel plan, for example a missed connection
makes the journey meaningless and the passenger decides to return to the point of
departure. If the ticket does not include a price for each part of the journey (for
example a travel pass or a season ticket), the refund should be calculated on a prorated basis. A passenger travelling on an integrated rail and ferry ticket is also
entitled to be refunded on this basis.
20. The payment of any refund must be made within 7 days, in cash, by
electronic bank transfer, bank order or bank cheque. The refund is likely to be made
in the same format as the original payment. Where the passenger agrees, the full
refund may also be paid in the form of vouchers and/or other services in an amount
equivalent to the price for which the ticket was purchased, provided that the
conditions are flexible, particularly regarding the period of validity and the destination.
3 21. A passenger with an open ticket where the time of departure is not specified
may not be entitled to be re-routed or refunded but this may be dependent upon the
terms and conditions of the carrier.
22. Cruise passengers have rights under the EU Package Travel Directive in the
case where either there are significant changes to the arrangements before
departure, or where arrangements change during the cruise.
Compensation of the ticket price in the event of delay in arrival of a ferry
service
23. A passenger who travels on a ferry service and experiences a delay in arrival
at the final destination as set out in the transport contract is entitled to compensation.
24. The compensation relevant to the length of the delay should be calculated
from the scheduled time of arrival as set out in the original transport contract. The
only exception to this is when the original transport contract has been subsequently
amended to reflect a change requested by the passenger.
25. From time to time, operators may have to reschedule their services for
operational reasons. Any rescheduling should be a planned event and any alteration
to the timetable should be well in advance of their sailing time. Passengers should be
notified in advance so they can alter their own travel plans accordingly.
26. Where a ship’s arrival is delayed the carrier will be required, upon request, to
compensate the passenger to the minimum level of 25% of the ticket price in
accordance with the following table:
Scheduled journey time Length of delay
up to 4 hours at least 1 hour
more than 4 hours but not more
than 8 hours
at least 2 hours
more than 8 hours but not more
than 24 hours
at least 3 hours
more than 24 hours at least 6 hours
27. If the length of delay exceeds double the time set out in the table above, the
compensation will be 50 % of the ticket price.
28. Tariff structures in the ferry industry are complex and diverse. However,
compensation must be calculated in relation to the price which the passenger
actually paid for the ticket as specified in the transport contract. For example a
passenger that purchases a ticket for a family of four, travelling in their own vehicle
should receive compensation based on the total cost of the ticket including the part of
the ticket price associated with the vehicle.
4 29. Where the passenger holds a combined ticket for an outward and return
journey, compensation for a delay in arrival on either the outward or the return leg
shall be calculated in relation to 50% of the price paid for the transport by that ferry
service.
30. When calculating the compensation, the cost of any extras related to that part
of the journey e.g. the costs associated with the allocation of seats or an onboard
cabin should be included, provided such extras were purchased as part of the
transport contract. Any discretionary purchases made onboard the ship should not be
included in the calculation. Any extras included in the transport contract but not
specially related to that part of the journey e.g. holiday insurance should not be
included in the calculation either. Carriers are not required to pay compensation if it
amounts to less than €6 or the equivalent3
in £ sterling on any distinct occasion.
31. Compensation is payable to passengers who hold a travel pass or a season
ticket and encounter recurrent delays in arrival in accordance with the carriers Terms
and Conditions.
32. Assuming that the claim is valid and not disputed then any compensation will
be paid within 1 month after the submission of the request for compensation. A
disputed claim might take longer to resolve as it may require input from the
applicable complaint handling service. Any compensation may be paid in vouchers
and / or other services, provided that the conditions are flexible, particularly regarding
the period of validity and the destination. The compensation must be paid in money if
the passenger requests, and carriers and terminal operators should make the
passenger aware of this right. The compensation of the ticket price must not be
reduced by financial transaction costs such as fees, telephone costs or postage.
33. Where a passenger requests compensation in money in respect of a ticket
that was originally bought with a voucher (or similar) the compensation should be
calculated in relation to the cash redemption value of that voucher.
34. Compensation may not be payable to passengers with open tickets unless
they have been checked-in or to passengers who were advised of the delay or
cancellation before purchasing a ticket or where the delay is due to the fault of the
passenger. Terms and Conditions of the operator may apply.
35. Nor is compensation payable where the delay was caused by weather
conditions endangering the safe operation of the ship or by extraordinary and
unavoidable circumstances that hindered the sailing4
.
36. As part of their role to customer care, a ferry service or cruise operator may
wish to consider how any delay experienced could affect their passenger’s onward
journeys at the end of their voyage and offer assistance where possible. This help
could be through providing railway or bus timetables or telephone numbers to local
taxi companies or by providing access to a telephone.
3
To determine the correct exchange rate use www.xe.com.
4
Examples include natural disasters such as fires and earthquakes, terrorist attacks, wars and military or civil armed
conflicts, uprisings, military or illegal confiscations, labour conflicts, landing any sick, injured or dead person, search
and rescue operations at sea or on inland waterways, measures necessary to protect the environment, decisions
taken by traffic management bodies or port authorities, or decisions by the competent authorities with regard to public
order and safety as well as to cover urgent transport needs.
5 37. Compensation for failure to provide the contracted services in respect of
cruises is governed by the Package Travel Regulations.
6 Annex A – Information in the event of cancelled or delayed departures (Article
16)
In the case of a cancellation or a delay in departure of a ferry service or a cruise,
passengers departing from port terminals or, if possible, passengers departing from
ports shall be informed by the carrier or, where appropriate, by the terminal operator,
of the situation as soon as possible and in any event no later than 30 minutes after
the scheduled time of departure, and of the estimated departure time and estimated
arrival time as soon as that information is available.
If passengers miss a connecting transport service due to a cancellation or delay, the
carrier and, where appropriate, the terminal operator shall make reasonable efforts to
inform the passengers concerned of alternative connections.
The carrier or, where appropriate, the terminal operator, shall ensure that disabled
persons or persons with reduced mobility receive the information required in
accessible formats.
Assistance in the event of cancelled or delayed departures (Article 17)
Where a carrier reasonably expects the departure of a ferry service or a cruise to be
cancelled or delayed for more than 90 minutes beyond its scheduled time of
departure, passengers departing from port terminals shall be offered free of charge
snacks, meals or refreshments in reasonable relation to the waiting time, provided
they are available or can reasonably be supplied.
In the case of a cancellation or a delay in departure where a stay of one or more
nights or a stay additional to that intended by the passenger becomes necessary,
where and when physically possible, the carrier shall offer passengers departing from
port terminals, free of charge, adequate accommodation on board, or ashore, and
transport to and from the port terminal and place of accommodation in addition to the
snacks, meals or refreshments provided for. For each passenger, the carrier may
limit the total cost of accommodation ashore, not including transport to and from the
port terminal and place of accommodation, to 80 euros per night, for a maximum of
three nights.
The carrier shall pay particular attention to the needs of disabled persons and
persons with reduced mobility and any accompanying persons.
Re-routing and reimbursement in the event of cancelled or delayed departures
(Article 18)
Where a carrier reasonably expects a ferry service to be cancelled or delayed in
departure from a port terminal for more than 90 minutes, the passenger shall
immediately be offered the choice between:
(a) re-routing to the final destination, under comparable conditions, as set out in the
transport contract, at the earliest opportunity and at no additional cost;
(b) reimbursement of the ticket price and, where relevant, a return service free of
charge to the first point of departure, asset out in the transport contract, at the
earliest opportunity.
7 Where a ferry service is cancelled or delayed in departure from a port for more than
90 minutes, passengers shall have the right to such re-routing or reimbursement of
the ticket price from the carrier.
The payment of the reimbursement provided for shall be made within 7 days, in cash,
by electronic bank transfer, bank order or bank cheque, of the full cost of the ticket at
the price at which it was purchased, for the part or parts of the journey not made, and
for the part or parts already made where the journey no longer serves any purpose in
relation to the passenger’s original travel plan. Where the passenger agrees, the full
reimbursement may also be paid in the form of vouchers and / or other services in an
amount equivalent to the price for which the ticket was purchased, provided that the
conditions are flexible, particularly regarding the period of validity and the destination.
Compensation of the ticket price in the event of delay in arrival (Article 19)
Without losing the right to transport, passengers may request compensation from the
carrier if they are facing a delay in arrival at the final destination as set out in the
transport contract. The minimum level of compensation shall be 25 % of the ticket
price for a delay of at least:
(a) 1 hour in the case of a scheduled journey of up to 4 hours;
(b) 2 hours in the case of a scheduled journey of more than4 hours, but not
exceeding 8 hours;
(c) 3 hours in the case of a scheduled journey of more than 8 hours, but not
exceeding 24 hours; or
(d) 6 hours in the case of a scheduled journey of more than 24 hours.
If the delay exceeds double the time set out in points (a) to (d), the compensation
shall be 50 % of the ticket price.
Passengers who hold a travel pass or a season ticket and who encounter recurrent
delays in arrival during its period of validity may request adequate compensation in
accordance with the carrier’s compensation arrangements. These arrangements
shall state the criteria for determining delay in arrival and for calculation of
compensation.
Compensation shall be calculated in relation to the price which the passenger
actually paid for the delayed ferry service.
Where the transport is for a return journey, compensation for delay in arrival on either
the outward or the return leg shall be calculated in relation to half of the price paid for
the transport by that ferry service.
The compensation shall be paid within 1 month after the submission of the request
for compensation. The compensation may be paid in vouchers and / or other
services, provided that the conditions are flexible, particularly regarding the period of
validity and the destination. The compensation shall be paid in money at the request
of the passenger.
8 The compensation of the ticket price shall not be reduced by financial transaction
costs such as fees, telephone costs or stamps. Carriers may introduce a minimum
threshold under which payments for compensation will not be paid. This threshold
shall not exceed 6 euros.
Exemptions (Article 20)
Articles 17, 18 and 19 shall not apply to passengers with open tickets as long as the
time of departure is not specified, except for passengers holding a travel pass or a
season ticket.
Articles 17 and 19 shall not apply if the passenger is informed of the cancellation or
delay before the purchase of the ticket or if the cancellation or delay is caused by the
fault of the passenger.
Article 17(2) shall not apply where the carrier proves that the cancellation or delay is
caused by weather conditions endangering the safe operation of the ship.
Article 19 shall not apply where the carrier proves that the cancellation or delay is
caused by weather conditions endangering the safe operation of the ship or by
extraordinary circumstances hindering the performance of the ferry service which
could not have been avoided even if all reasonable measures had been taken.
Further claims (Article 21)
Nothing in the EU Regulation shall preclude passengers from seeking damages in
accordance with national law in respect of loss resulting from cancellation or delay of
transport services before national courts, including under Directive 90/314/EEC.
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amy57j  ↗总版主↗  2013-7-2 20:27:44 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 荷兰
本帖最后由 amy57j 于 2013-7-2 21:38 编辑

我懒得排版了哦,看原文

34. Compensation may not be payable to passengers with open tickets unless
they have been checked-in or to passengers who were advised of the delay or
cancellation before purchasing a ticket or where the delay is due to the fault of the
passenger. Terms and Conditions of the operator may apply.
35. Nor is compensation payable where the delay was caused by weather
conditions endangering the safe operation of the ship or by extraordinary and
unavoidable circumstances that hindered the sailing
看这段!


其中extraordinary and unavoidable circumstances that hindered the sailing解释如下

Examples include natural disasters such as fires and earthquakes, terrorist attacks, wars and military or civil armed
conflicts, uprisings, military or illegal confiscations, labour conflicts, landing any sick, injured or dead person, search
and rescue operations at sea or on inland waterways, measures necessary to protect the environment, decisions
taken by traffic management bodies or port authorities, or decisions by the competent authorities with regard to public
order and safety as well as to cover urgent transport needs.
你所描述的情况属于terrorist attacks,所以他们不给补偿。

amy57j  ↗总版主↗  2013-7-2 20:33:01 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 荷兰
很同情你们,不过看来是没办法要求补偿了
luping1614  中级海盗  2013-7-2 22:18:34 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 荷兰
谢谢版主,当我听到是这个原因造成的延误,然后我今天自己也查了下,根据Exemptions (Article 20) , arcticle 19 补偿我没想过能拿。但是根据这个arcticle 18, 我至少可以退票吧,因为我就没上船,而且当时我就表明我不坐了,退票。今天又给他们发了封,就说根据这个个18条款
Where a ferry service is cancelled or delayed in departure from a port for more than
90 minutes, passengers shall have the right to such re-routing or reimbursement of
the ticket price from the carrier.
看能把票款能拿回来不
amy57j  ↗总版主↗  2013-7-3 05:44:34 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 荷兰
本帖最后由 amy57j 于 2013-7-3 06:50 编辑
luping1614 发表于 2013-7-2 23:18
谢谢版主,当我听到是这个原因造成的延误,然后我今天自己也查了下,根据Exemptions (Article 20) , arcti ...

不是哦 你所说的Where a ferry service is cancelled or delayed in departure from a port for more than
90 minutes, passengers shall have the right to such re-routing or reimbursement of
the ticket price from the carrier. 我对此的理解是它指的是service被cancelled或delayed(由于不可抗力原因)跟你自己cancel行程是两码事的。





amy57j  ↗总版主↗  2013-7-3 05:52:36 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 荷兰
本帖最后由 amy57j 于 2013-7-3 06:54 编辑

你再看我后面发的article18
18. Where a ferry service has been delayed for more than 90 minutes at an
unstaffed slipway, passengers are similarly entitled to be re-routed or refunded. In
practice, however, there may be no personnel from the carrier on site, so the
passenger will need to contact the carrier to arrange any such re-routing (if possible)
or to seek a refund.

上面说there may be no personnel from the carrier on site,更加证明了是指他们的service由于不可抗力原因造成cancel或是delay,而不是指顾客自己取消行程的情况。
如果只是单个顾客自己取消行程,不存在说maybe no personnel的
amy57j  ↗总版主↗  2013-7-3 05:53:24 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 荷兰
不过我想说的是,试试总没坏处!

有时complain会带来意想不到的效果。
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