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PaoPaoMeng  高级海盗  2010-10-14 15:41:37 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 荷兰

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怎么会啊。如果你不想结婚,然后想过去,他们还会觉得你假结婚呢!

我觉得让他们觉得你们不是假结婚更好。 要知道现在通过家庭团聚过来的签字越来越难
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jessica210  四海霸王  2010-10-14 17:37:34 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 荷兰
原帖由 guangguang 于 2010-10-14 14:48 发表
我现在在中国,担心大使馆会知道我们相结婚,而拒绝我的访友签证。请问会有这个影响吗?谢谢


不是說遇到某一種情況就一定据簽,凡是申請簽證都有面臨据簽的可能性,但是你有在比利時工作一年而且沒有犯罪沒有移民傾向的話,應該問題不大的,但是這個也不是百分百的阿。你男朋友在說什麽廢話,怎麽會對你有不良影響呢?頂多也就是假結婚嫌疑大一點而已,如果你們是真結婚,他們怎麽找也找不到假結婚的證據,也要給你居留的啊,据我說真實最重要。你計劃怎麽走就怎麽走,只要是真實的就不怕。
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amy57j  ↗总版主↗  2010-10-14 20:15:55 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 荷兰
怎么可能在中国结婚然后过来有不良影响呢?我个人觉得,如果确定了要结婚,在中国结婚然后过来是比较好的选择。
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guangguang  初上贼船  2010-11-21 14:28:05 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 中国北京
原帖由 jessica210 于 2010-10-14 13:15 发表
錯了,“marriageor relationship" 那一項是指結婚或者partnership的同居,是要登記過的,你這種只能申請訪友簽證,3個月。



在IND的网站上找到一个 Application for residence permit with mvv
http://www.ind.nl/en/Images/0907%205009%20ENG_M35A1_tcm6-592.pdf
从上面的描述看,不结婚或同居的貌似也可以申请MVV签证,详见Page7,第一种情况讲的是结婚或注册同居的人需要什么资料,第二种情况讲的是没有结婚也没有注册同居的情侣需要的资料

you are married to, or have a registered partnership with, someone
(your sponsor) who resides in the Netherlands
You must submit the following additional documents and documentary
evidence together with your application:
– An original extract (not a copy) from the Municipal Administration
showing the address and family composition of your sponsor. This
extract must be dated within the last 6 months
– Copies of all of the pages of your sponsor’s identity papers if he or
she is a Dutch national or of the front and back of his or her
residence permit or of all of the pages of the passport in which your
sponsor’s residence permit has been entered
> Go to 7 on page 11
you are the unmarried partner of someone (your sponsor) who
resides in the Netherlands
You must submit the following additional documents and documentary
evidence together with your application:
– An original extract (not a copy) from the Municipal Administration
showing the address and family composition of your sponsor. This
extract must be dated within the last 6 months
– Copies of all of the pages of your sponsor’s identity papers if he or
she is a Dutch national or of the front and back of his or her
residence permit or of all of the pages of the passport in which your
sponsor’s residence permit has been entered
– The Declaration of Relationship Annex completed in full and
signed by your sponsor
> Go to 7 on page 11
jessica210  四海霸王  2010-11-21 16:03:47 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 荷兰
you are the unmarried partner of someone (your sponsor) who
resides in the Netherlands

who "resides" in the Netherlands.
這個是說已經在荷蘭住的人想申請伴侶ID的情況(不結婚不登記partnership之外還有samen wonen,中文直接翻譯為同居),可是你都沒有住在荷蘭,這種情況是不符合的。

我的解釋你明白嗎?
jessica210  四海霸王  2010-11-21 16:56:33 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 荷兰
我幫你找了相關的資料,如果還有不明白的,只能打電話問IND了
你的情況如果要申請MVV,簡單的有訪友,如果要”家庭組建“的那種,你們是要登記的,這裡我說的”登記“,指的是”登記為伴侶“或者”登記同居“,你們現在是情侶關係的話,之後一定需要把地址登記在一起,也就是屬於以上說的登記的第二种”登記同居“也就是在市政厛註冊你們住在一起的。
詳情在下面:
You want to live with your spouse or partner in the Netherlands. The following conditions apply:

you are married and your marriage has been registered in the Netherlands, in the municipal personal records database [Gemeentelijke Basisadministratie];
or you are both unmarried and you are able to prove this with official legalised documents;
you are not a danger to public order;
you are 21 or older.
you will live with your spouse or partner as soon as you arrive in the Netherlands:
- you are intending to run a joint household with your spouse or partner;
- you are going to register yourself at the same address as your spouse or partner.   
you are required to take the civic integration examination abroad (Caution: you are exempted from taking the civil integration test if you have the American, Australian, Canadian, Japanese, New Zealand or South Korean nationality).
  
The following conditions apply to your partner/spouse in the Netherlands:

-he/she is 21 or older.
-he/she enjoys a sufficient income in the Netherlands.

上面14#你問的問題是在你”擁有MVV之後“申請居留ID用的,黨你擁有MVV之後,你的情況屬於你看的表格裏面的第二种情況。

可是你必須要了解,”MVV“和居留的ID是不同的東西,你需要:
-MVV從中囯出關,在荷蘭入關,MVV 通常在3-6個月
-ID是在荷蘭生活的類似于生份証的東西,通常你申請家庭組建的,第一次是給1年的,第二次開始是5年(有錯請指教)

希望我的解釋你可以理解
jessica210  四海霸王  2010-11-21 17:02:31 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 荷兰
不過,還是像以上討論的那樣,你們結了婚再申請MVV過來,家庭團聚還是簡單很多的
祝你成功哦~~!!

[ 本帖最后由 jessica210 于 2010-11-21 17:05 编辑 ]
jessica210  四海霸王  2010-11-21 17:42:14 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 荷兰
我先把帖子改一下,我找到那封信仔細看過了再共享阿~~

給你留個網址,荷蘭人申請外國伴侶的網頁,其中有你需要的信息,你讓你男朋友去仔細看看
http://www.buitenlandsepartner.nl/forum/forum.php?c=2

[ 本帖最后由 jessica210 于 2010-11-22 00:53 编辑 ]
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amy57j  ↗总版主↗  2010-11-21 17:49:25 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 荷兰
LSMM如果方便的话,不妨也在这里发给大家看看。谢谢。
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