炒股的朋友们，不如大家一起来讨论

i was guessing some 7%-10%...   nothing is really surprise, trading at .7X NBV, i don't see it's a call for earnings, but management credibility and clearer group strategy and vision, which the management managed to deliver at least some. nevertheless happy to see a relatively low llp and intact normalized earnings before market impact, lower impairment and improved capital position. hopefully after some profit taking tomorrow it could rally again, if the us could bring some nice news on the economy.

should have bought some sns yesterday..... the valuation is still low though.

ING有那么烂吗，最核心的价值应该是Equity per share,现在是8.5欧

短期不好说，长期hold的话不见得差。现在是6块多，等于便宜折价了

知道啊，2012年前会把银行和保险拆开么
会sell掉10-15个商业单位，不过拆分不一定不好，就像合并不一定好一样

如果把高风险的拆分掉，把本业务搞好，我看不一定是坏事。反正我觉得基本面还是不错

ING is appealing for not selling his American units. That is the only reason ING went up 5% with the bad earning figures.

How is everybody's portfolio doing??

What about TM ??