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前天看荷兰的中文报纸,上面说从2007年开始KM申请要取消薪金方面的硬性规定了.不管是30岁以下还是30岁以上的KM申请,都将取消对公司支付薪水的规定.

如果这个消息属实,大家怎样看这个变化呢?

我觉得不太好,因为这样的话,以后在与公司谈个人待遇的时候,将很有可能得不到我们想要的工资水平.以前有规定的时候,我们可以不用太担心工资数额,因为那是荷兰政府硬性规定的,公司必须支付达到或高于标准的工资.现在取消了这个规定,等于解放了公司一方,他们不用再支付"高"工资给我们这些应聘者了,而我们则只有或者拿低于心里预期的工资工作,或者放弃好不容易得来的工作机会.这样岂不是在一定程度上了损害了我们的利益?

以上是我个人的看法.大家是怎么看这个变化的呢?

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NiceTry  高级海盗  2006-12-28 23:22:55 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 荷兰

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那怎么判断是不是KM ?
cucu  海贼王  2006-12-29 09:42:33 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 荷兰

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个人看法哈:

荷兰政府这招其实是为了让中小公司也能成功得到人才补给

就去年的感觉来看,就业最卡人的两个事情是荷兰语(特别是客户接触多的职位)和工资线。除去荷兰语不说,因为这是永远存在的问题。很多中型公司或者小型公司,非常想要这个人,但是他们的工资条件实在达不到,而且,最重要的是,他们也不会为了去满足KM的标准而为你一个人变动起薪。所以LZ所担心的,得不到应有的工资水平,应该不会成为问题,因为公司应该是根据自身实力定的面向全荷兰(甚至全欧洲)的一个标准,不会说,以前为了给你KM,就多点,现在不用担心那个线,就少点。

总而言之,有工资线的时候,形成了,所有学生往那些起薪定的高的大公司挤,恶性竞争,而大公司吃了个饱,而中小公司一个也没得到。而取消KM的工资标准,无疑是互惠互利的事情,学生有了更多的选择机会,而中小公司也得到了自己想要的人才。
Horizon  见习海盗  2006-12-30 13:45:18 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 荷兰

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同问怎样判断是否是KM?

KM申请好象取消薪金规定了!! 就等价于可以不用工作许可工作。敢问楼主消息来源。
Bauer  高级海盗  2006-12-30 23:27:13 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 荷兰

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关注......
sdram    2006-12-30 23:35:32 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 荷兰
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v_c  四海霸王  2006-12-31 00:15:23 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 荷兰

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如果没有了薪水的限定,还应该有别的限定吧,象学历什么的。。。本来就只有薪水的约束,现在如果林唯一的限制都没有了,那还叫什么KENNIMIGRANT呀。。。
福晋  高级海盗  2007-1-1 18:49:02 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 荷兰

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The Immigration and Naturalisation Service has expanded the knowledge migrants scheme, such that the scheme is now open to scientific researchers and doctors who are in training to become specialists.  The knowledge migrants scheme offers a fast-track procedure for foreign nationals who enter the service of employers who have applied to the Immigration and Naturalisation Service to participate in the scheme.  Under this scheme, no work permit is required, and the application for a residence permit is processed within two weeks by a single department of the Immigration and Naturalisation Service in Rijswijk.
A minimum earnings requirement applies in the case of knowledge migrants, although, in some cases, residence can be granted to a knowledge migrant who does not meet the minimum earnings requirement.  Until now, this applied to PhD students, postdocs and university lecturers up to thirty years of age,  but this category has now been replaced with a single category for all foreign nationals who are employed in the Netherlands to carry out scientific research.  In addition, doctors who are in training to become specialists have been admitted to the category of knowledge migrants who do not have to meet the minimum wage requirement.  All this has significantly widened the possibilities for scientific researchers to come to the Netherlands.  In this way, the scheme addresses the practical need that exists among Dutch universities and research institutions to expand their ability to attract highly qualified workers from outside the European Economic Area.
Since the introduction of the knowledge migrants scheme in October 2004, 4700 foreign nationals have been admitted to the Netherlands as knowledge migrants,
and more than 2000 employers and institutions have issued declarations within the context of this procedure. The top three labour market sectors where knowledge migrants find employment are the IT sector, the industrial sector in general, and scientific education and research. The top three countries of origin of knowledge migrants are India, the United States of America, and Japan.

Source: Pressrelease Ministerie van Justitie
mojave3  中级海盗  2007-1-1 19:45:16 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 荷兰

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看来lz瞎操心了
sunlightbj    2007-1-1 20:06:08 | 显示全部楼层 来自: 荷兰
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